hrc!archives help file

Dan Troxel dan at hrc.uucp
Fri Mar 15 02:43:07 AEST 1991


This help file is for those who were wondering who archives alt.sources.


UPDATED 11/13/90 : New files added. 200+ meg.
                   Index problem corrected.
                   Uucppath command corrected.

*NOTE* : You MUST use the 'send path' command to receive any items from
         this archive server. Far too many requests are bouncing, and
         never making it to it's destination.

*IMPORTANT* 
   Read *all* of this help file before attempting to access the archives.
   This archive server is set up mainly for the southwest region of the 
   United States. If you are outside this area, please contact an archive 
   site closer to you.  I distribute this help file on a larger scale, due
   to some of the files are hard to find anywhere else.

This message comes to you from the archive server at hrc, archives at hrc.
It received a message from you asking for help.

hrc archives:
   alt.sources
   comp.sources.unix
   comp.sources.games
   comp.sources.misc
   comp.sources.x
   comp.sources.sun
   gnu
   news
	comp.*.bugs (patch repairs found here, go in the alt area of the archives)
   (and anything else that looks like it should be archived)

The archive server is a mail-response program. That means that you mail it a
request, and it mails back the response.

The archive server is a very dumb program and does not have much error checking.

This site batches the requests to be run once-a-night. Only so much of the 
archives go out in a night. This is to keep the traffic down from connected 
sites. You will get an automatic reply when your request is received, and it
will include approximatly how long it will be before your request will be sent 
to you.

The archive server has several commands. Each command must be the first word 
on a line. The archive server reads your entire message before it does anything,
so you can have several different commands in a single message. The archive
server DOES NOT recognize the "Subject:" header line.
       ^^^^ ^^^

Most send requests, except the 'send help' command, are in the shar format.
Items found in the gnu directory, may give you problems, due to some are in
a tar format. Gnu stuff, is mainly for those sites directly connected to me.


"send path" command: The "send path" command exists to help the server get
   any requests to you accurately. You *must* include the full path to your 
   site from my box on the very *FIRST* line. I have had many of the archives 
   mailed, only to come back because of a bad path.  Sometimes the server is 
   unable to return mail over the incoming path.  There are dozens of reasons 
   why this might happen, and if you are a true wizard, you already know what 
   those reasons are. If you are an apprentice wizard, you might not know all 
   the reasons but you might know a way to circumvent them.

   When you put in a "send path" command, everything that the server
   mails to you will be mailed to that address, rather than to the
   return address on your mail. For example, if you reside at

       rutgers!jj

   then to get mail from hrc to you, you would say

       send path asuvax!noao!ncar!rutgers!jj

   then all mail sent by the server will be sent to that address.

   hrc!archives is connected by several machines. But the best one to use
   is asuvax!hrc!archives.

   If you would like the server to determine a uucp path for you,
   using the most recent pathalias data, then put in a "send path" command
   with site_connected_to!yoursite!yourname

       send path feedsite!yoursite!yourname

   As you probably know, the pathalias data is sometimes wrong, and lately, 
   quite a bit. So due to the many errors in the past from the maps, it would 
   be a good idea to send a full path from my site to yours.

"uucppath" command: The "uucppath" command exists to allow users who are
   connected directly to me, to have the files uucp'ed over. Almost all
   of the files are in compressed format, and thus will make the transfer
   faster, and take less disk space. You will also need to use the
   "uucpname" command to get notified of the transfer. The uucppath command
   requires a full path to place the file. Generally this will be in your
   uucppublic directory. Example:

      uucppath your_site_name!~/your_login_name
      uucpname your_site_name!your_login_name
      send archives/unix/v19/file_name

   This will uucp the file to your machine in directory:

      /usr/spool/uucppublic/your_login_name/archives/unix/v19/file_name

   The uucppublic directory may be different on your machine, but most sites
   keep it as '/usr/spool/uucppublic'. The reason for such a long
   directory path, is that there are many files that have the same name.
   If you request files with the same name, without removing them from
   your uucppublic directory, you would lose your first requested file, to
   be replaced with the latest transfer. Also, this will seperate file
   transfers between users, who may be asking for archives, who reside
   on the same box.


"send help" command: The "send help" causes the server to
   send you the help file. You already know this, of course, because
   you are reading the help file.


The archives are organized into a series of directories and subdirectories.
Each subdirectory has an index. The index will also give you the last date of 
entry. This will help you to know when more files were entered into the 
archive. To get a general list of where the indexes are, send the following 
message containing the line:

   send main.index

When you get the index back, it will give you the names of all of the indexes
and where to locate them. Example:

********hrc archives/games/v02 index as of Thu Aug 30 10:16:10 PDT 1990********

To retrieve the above index, send the following line

   send x.v00.index

You will get:

           ********hrc archives/x/v00 index as of 01/15/90********


      Note: For additional information on receiving this index in a
            variety of different formats, use the command 'send help'.


   filename : size of file
      description

   archives/x/v00/awm/part01.Z : 45976
      Ardent Window Manager(X11), Part01/13

   archives/x/v00/awm/part02.Z : 44567
      Ardent Window Manager(X11), Part02/13

   archives/x/v00/awm/part03.Z : 7664
      Ardent Window Manager(X11), Part03/13

   [rest of file deleted]


To retrieve part01.Z above:

send archives/x/v00/awm/part01.Z

The .Z extension is a compressed file, and the archiver will uncompress the
file, and send it to you in ascii form. You would save it to disk as:

   ansiawm/part01

You may send for several indexes. Example:

   send unix.v01.index
   send misc.v04.index
   send x.v00.index
   send games.v06.index
   send games.v07.index

Each index will be mailed seperatly to you. To send for a ls -lR (sort of)
listing of the archives:

   send ls-lR.index

To send for all indexes (except ls-lR):

   send all.indexes

You can also search for only a specific file. This will return the location
of the file, and the index you can find it under. Example:

   send search regex

It runs a script that searches for *regex*, and it will get you:

   This is a search of regex from the hrc!archives index.

   ***hrc archives/unix/v03 index as of Thu Aug 30 10:16:10 PDT 1990***
   archives/unix/v03/regexp.Z : 57693
        regexp(3) 

   ***hrc archives/unix/v03 index as of Thu Aug 30 10:16:10 PDT 1990***
   archives/unix/v03/regexp2.Z : 1011
           bug in regexp(3), and fix 

   [rest of file deleted]

You may put as many "send" commands as you like into one message
to the server, but the more you ask for, the longer it will take
to receive. See "FAIRNESS", below, for an explanation.



EXAMPLES:

1) Find out the list of catagories that are in the archive. Send this message:
   To: hrc!archives
   Subject: hi there

   send path asuvax!sun!uunet!froggy!frankj
   send main.index

2) Get the ansi file from the archive
   To: hrc!archives
   Subject: a send on the subject line will do you no good!

   send path asuvax!sun!uunet!froggy!frankj
   send archives/unix/v01/ansi.c.Z

3) Get the ansi file, and send them over using the hrc path database:
   To: asuvax!hrc!archives

   send path uunet!froggy!frankj
   send archives/unix/v01/ansi.c.Z



NOTES:

The delays in sending out large items from the archives are intentional, to
make it difficult to get copies of everything in the archives. If you are new
to the network and would like to get all back issues of everything, you
should post a request to a regional newsgroup asking whether someone who is
geographically near you can provide them. We will send tapes to those who
request it.

If you wish to get the indexes automatically when there is an update, please
send mail to hrc!dan, and ask to be put on the list.

FAIRNESS:

The archive server contains many safeguards to ensure that it is not
monopolized by people asking for large amounts of data. The mailer is set up
so that it will send no more than a fixed amount of data each week. If the
work queue contains more requests than the week's quota, then the unsent files
will not be processed until the next week. Whenever the mailer is run to send
its week's quota, it sends the requests out shortest-first. 

If you have a request waiting in the work queue and you send in another
request, the new request is added to the old one (thereby increasing its
size) rather than being filed anew. This prevents you from being able to
send in a large number of small requests as a way of beating the system.
If you request 10 items together, you will get substantially higher
priority than if you make 10 requests for 1 item each.

--
Dan Troxel @ Handwriting Research Corporation                  WK 1-602-957-8870
Camelback Corporate Center  2821 E. Camelback Road  Suite 600  Phoenix, AZ 85016
ncar!noao!asuvax!hrc!dan          zardoz!hrc!dan      hrc!dan at asuvax.eas.asu.edu
-- 
Dan Troxel @ Handwriting Research Corporation                  WK 1-602-957-8870
Camelback Corporate Center  2821 E. Camelback Road  Suite 600  Phoenix, AZ 85016
ncar!noao!asuvax!hrc!dan          zardoz!hrc!dan      hrc!dan at asuvax.eas.asu.edu



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