I found something else in my archives that will interest you. I have an old Unix User Group tape (tp format). [Now ug091377-ar.tar.gz which has the original ar files and ug091377.tar.gz which has the ar files exploded. This dates from Sep 14 1977 -- Warren] --- Jay R. Jaeger The Computer Collection Jay.Jaeger@msn.fullfeed.com visit http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/~cube